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“Knockout Game:” Follow-up

"Knockout Game:" Follow-up - TheArmsGuide.com

November 24, 2013 by Kevin 28 Comments

Last week, Jay posted an article about the spread of the so-called “Knockout Game,” and five tips for how to avoid it. In this follow-up post, I’d like to share with you an instance of a victim of this “game” who fought back.

Knockout “Game” Victim

The first attack was reported near the end of August. According to the news report, the victim was a Michigan resident and concealed carry permit holder. His alleged assailant was 17-year-old Marvell Weaver. The “Knockout Game,” also called “Point ‘Em Out, Knock ‘Em Out” among other names, generally entails that a group of youths single out a target, and then one (or more than one) of the group attempts to strike their target hard enough to knock them unconscious. Weaver and his friends had identified their victim, a father waiting to pick up his daughter at her school bus stop. But, Marvell was planning a twist; he had a stun gun (a black KL-800) that he was planning to use to incapacitate his mark.

The teen walked up behind the 28-year-old man, passed him, and then turned around to jab the stun gun into his target’s side. Fortunately for the intended victim, the stun gun didn’t function. The concealed carrier, thinking he had been stabbed, drew his carry gun and fired at Weaver as the teen turned to run away. His .40 S&W round struck the seventeen-year-old in the buttock, stopping him in his tracks. Weaver plopped himself down on the other side of the street and the concealed carrier dialed 911.

[Edited: Second Victim removed due to unverifiable source.]

What might you have done in this victim’s circumstances?

Featured image courtesy of contributor arsenik via iStockphoto.com

Filed Under: Gun News Tagged With: CCW, Concealed Carry, concealed carry news, gun news, knockout game, news, news report, response, self-defense, teens, violence, youth violence

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  1. Avatar for KevinZoltanMate says

    November 26, 2013 at 8:10 am

    hartcreek i imagine it is mostly what controls and manipulates the state. a criminal group of sort wants to make the impression all the time that for one:
    -u dont trust people some of them might be criminals
    -u have something to imporve on in the state
    -u dont have other choice (for a different layer of society)

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  2. Avatar for KevinZoltanMate says

    November 26, 2013 at 8:15 am

    hartcreek further.. imagine the “hardship” in measuring amount of food produced overall or locally, tracking of people (all the fucking clothes have some metal and they are very pricy for their material and energy price.. everyone is followed at least regarding many kind of cloth things.. plus other stuff). now imagine the hardship of education an individual for a certain behavior (have u ever seen a monkey with a necktie? no .. it is a behavior copied.. first invented to have this shit hanging in some peoples necks.. this was simply educated to be copied.. also look at highheels with pointy nose… some places.. overall have u ever seen a person with clothes coming out of womb? no some old dude takes them out somehow naked with their bare hands.. someone will proceed to wipe all the body including the little genitals.) 
    so one arrives: since all can be followed tracked.. and lot of power in multiple individuals for quite some time (industrial revolutions and so) it is orchestrated by some manipulative secret groups to have problems or tragedies.
    i forgot about engineering food without need to kill animals.

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  3. Avatar for KevinZoltanMate says

    November 26, 2013 at 9:37 am

    hartcreek well lets go back to the preshistoric people. first and foremost, i am more or less naked, sparsely covered in fur. and the closest apes, i can see.. are most definitly not naked. i also have this idiotic hairgrowth masses in a particular shape on top of my head, on my crotch under my armpits and so (of course this can be removed but this is not the matter at hand).
    so. lets suppose more primitive creatures.. they look at the partners and they have various designs:
    -chose based on some outside things, like looking for simmetry or something.. 
    -chose based on smells and a little bit on outside appearance.. and they just had a lot of sex.
    suppose the second option. then, they all had hair.. lot of hair just like other animals.. so they fucked other animals as well. chances are .. some miscarriges would be fatal? resulting in infection? soil has the bactiera.. they dont clean themselves but the vagina lubricats and flows outward.. similar with penis, or the female male licks it (in rodents there is grooming behavior.. earlier mammals are considered ground dwellers. mammals basicly feed from their milk, so abandoning the young, menas they die. why would they lactate.. at first.. because first comes the egg. then comes something else (because the cell is like an egg.. possibly just budding off.. with first multicellulars.. but eggs have protective shells. when theyare hanging there.. they are small and useless for the parent.. so egg develops).
    suppose there was a place where things were colder.. so they should have more stuff for heat regulation. what about fur? well thins might migrate.. animals.. so first comes fur or first comes mammals? mammals are not so good, because the female is held back by being pregnant, but if they had no predators.. its ok. if there was a viral infection or so (well the soil bacteria.. why not just move into the moving object instead of into the soil? there was protective wall.. but what if small multicellular organism? mass to pin ratio is sorta such that there is the energy to pass through the hardened material of sorts.. and into the bloodstream where things are digestible/already digested.. they themselves can be the infective agents at first.. quite likley things wanted to invade the primitve multicellulars.. so they made extracellular matrix, or had a defense.. they have not outpaced the replication of infection.
    sometimes cells recognise self.. eat things wich is not self (attempt to eat it).
    So the milk..doesnt seem so fine to me.. at least if infected.. it will be carried to baby.. egg formation i dont know.
    fur seems interesting.. looks lieke grass. 
    Just to explain, im looking for the influencer groups..  either way.. at some point the forward thinking capacities reached a level, along with competition inside species, somehow tools were made.. but those who were top of hierarchy groups, at first can only oversee a number of individuals. why would they continue at primitve stages the competition/suppressing of others within the group? one can be basic copyying of earlier habbits, and the lack of altruism towards the other individuals, after somehow the ancestors acquired meat eating.habbits, they still had the choice? or maybe no because they were living in good envionrmnet, and they have d to leave for the desert or wastelands mostly.. where there were other animals more equiped to eat local plants. so a mechanism for loving other species members is connected to recognising eyes and certain other patterns.. but the perfect outside apperance might not be present in own species.. but there will be enough stimulation to “fuck” member of species. basicly the pattern recognition mechanism might be crude. then u can have even multiple plant eaters.. very stupid ones, but eating plants means, they recognise the smells, at first.. recognising others goes by smells at first.. before have a more advanced vision. then these thigns might compete with one another how? they smell the food they smell the sex partner, if they overproduce.. one eats all.. then everyting is lost.. theny they starve.. and die. so these things are stupid.. to have the environment to survive they eat soemthing wich they themselves cannot overpopulate.. such as algae. because cells have to migrate communicate for a while and then differentiate to have the whole animal functional.. while algae is single cell.. there is some differentiation inside.. but not so many walls to cross. what if they dont have to eat organic.? they can eat sunlight too like euglena, wich uses inorganic material or eats other things as well. they need noone.. just sunlight and eat their own “shit” and eachothers “shit”. so they mutate if they are bad.. well they did.. mutate too bad.. and they dont survive untill they reproduce. 
    so.. at any rate.. there might be species wich just only dumb, and reproduce slowly while what they eat is faster (eating grass for instance). fur can be usefull to contain microflora, against infections.. (things get stuck there.. so the things doesnt wanan go further wich would be otherwise mobile (because primitive just go for food, and then it stops if its there).
    so grass eaters can populate and store their staff. but they live and popluate again. have more then one offspring because just because they can, so they populate all the earth and they eat all grass.. and they make more babies who dont have enough grass.. so such a primitve thing would not lead to smart ones alone… well maybe, because they have some time to mutate their genes.

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  4. Avatar for KevinZoltanMate says

    November 26, 2013 at 9:37 am

    @hartcreek so there are various possibilities there.  what is observebale is that many nonpredator thigns also have violence within themselves. so sometimes earlier it occured. lactation is fine.. because their furr can have all the milk, or sheet.. and so on.. and the microorganisms wich are stopped to enter the body this way would have something to eat. so lactation was mainly for stopping microorganisms to infect. it would emmerge as a more develooped version of secretin scent things with an error to excrete this and bacteria breaking this down caused more scent. So these had no neceessserly wombs and were much cold blooded quite likely. u dont wanna lactate much in deserts things evaporate. now the platipus and some other stuff are like this.

    so the part when they take care of their young.. that is giving a shit other then sexytime.. or perhaps competition, is if there were predators, who can easily eat the fertiliezed eggs.. so they wanan take care of eggs.. why? because they like round things as one option.. so they like round objects (something wich collects round rocks), or because they see that this thing comes out of it and they like it and they conclude if this thing is eaten.. then its bad. communciation with voice is good because all their big bodies can have a small ear and a good enough lungs to shout farther away then releasing scents. this is probably more usefull if they are on a large wasteland with sparse food.
    so eventually.. needed some smartness in bad situations cooperation,, sometimes the womb developed with heat regulation (for instance.. some stuff digesting something.. wich was kidna hard.. so more exoterm reaction perhaps.. then somehow this stuff migrated to other cellular types being expressed).
    And so on.. so they needed wombs for coldness.. obvious.. or because they were very stupid to take care of eggs. in cold the small virus cannot live, unless it is dehydrated, and is protected then later becomes infective as consumed.. but cannot replicate outside of the body perhaps under ice:. where are other animals? maybe in soil? i dont know.
    then somewhere along the line they acquired clothes or lost fur (such as in the deserts.. the fur is lost or with a lot of clothes.. the fur is not good and there is no need to protect from outside sources). so then somehow oppression is emmerged, either through not liking others or through some sortof other infection of sort an dperhaps due to smart genes emmerging, while if these are present.. they are smart.. but if not (suppose heterozygote is dumb) then kinda dumb human is the result… so then the smarter controlled dumb.. perhaps competition thingy created for them i dont know.. as technology emmerge,, such as tools, they acquire knowlege about nature.. they might wanna make large things, for their survival otherwise most would have to hunt or gather things all day.. so they had to care about building with hands mostly, so a few was the one who had the time to think.. so these were the disabled but still taken care of by some altrusitic behavior individuals or these were those who were ruling controlling others (because they were occupied more with thinking and instructing) but when they are working simple task.. they are also able to think in the same time, however perhaps more exposed to soil and infections within it etc etc. eventually.. why wouldnt one listen to another one? because it jsut wants to play, run around with others eat and have sex. but they can be educated provided good environment.. yes but they must be taken from the old environment somehow, because then the runner.. etc dumb ones are overpopulating perhaps (well not completely dumb) not so much motivated. Perhaps conflict was engineered by a travelling group into the society.. or perhaps the hymen in the females made infections at first more likely perhaps, and the clitoris become sensitive for some species or the mensturation pain, wich is related to vulva and can occure as the female baby is born .. so somehow primitive females were not willing to have sex the primitive way, but as they menstruate they are more willing because of higher drive. the males would have high drive for instance because the group was large, and when a female would be ready to reproduce, the male should be willing (for the primitive ones) so they wanted it all the time, while it was possibly not satisfied all the time for the primitives, and as they defended if they felt a lack (or attacked another), they attacked others. Perhaps the males similarly did compete in such way or suppressed young males, because they remembered stuff.. and they also realised that females take care of baby and they realise it is a male (after time.. at first they dont look at it like this). So because a general shape is already imprinted in the mind of the younger male, during competitions, not many male animals fight till death (except when accident). So perhaps there were competition created by primitive nature and not by superior intelligence. So if the controllers see this competition, in masses and masses at first for sure needed for physical tasks, then in a way made them unable to reach material wealth or unable to utilize technology of higher level. they invented many interesting thigns earlier, to occupy the mind and wich was not related to much cognitive creative function, and they also discovered hallucinogen drugs in order to drive hallucinations to similar things they have said (so those consuming the drugs more likely believe truth.. because for instance if they remember some things unlike how many things are forgotten from dreams).
    This is the basis of control of large masses, probably a few hundred manipulating and contorlling thousands.. while still (most likely from earlier primitve causes) competition for something ver much needed is there.. likewise it emmerged that females competed lower for the attention of higher ranking individuals (as they gain more this way), and the males were competing/suppressing (depending on position) other males to acquire females just like this.. and mostly the suppressors would care about suppressing potential of those in lower ranks.

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  5. Avatar for KevinZoltanMate says

    November 26, 2013 at 9:38 am

    Conflict would emmerge between such independelty growing larger powers due to natural disasters [lack of food and such] or due to principle ideological differences [elitist versus communist [communst doesnt want this sort of control structure] other religion doesnt matter because the science practicing controllers or rulers.. do not believe this relition it was invented as distraction, because they observed in the lower casts at least that they compete.. so they instead made them as practince sort of be occupied with at least the concept of fighting other similar class individuals and not so much with the concept of thinking about control or separating themselves from the other power (because one person might not know every songle one.. 10000 by face can be known.. but anyway). The upper classes children had no much competition.. so eventually they would need a special education.. or mostly having their young educated in lower class competition envrioinments in order to make them see others in some way.. thinking that the masses compete anyway. So basicly.. the top levels maintained science, maintainged the lower class individuals (one maintinaed some ) and the lower class secret individuals (also secret) matinained the even lower class.. and the lowest class were doing the job (control of machines, hand work, servants, scientists of specific sorts/engineers.. so on).This is how it works right now.. there are differences in stories to occupy the mind of different groups because it is how they divide others. This method is very old.. now the elitist large powers dont copete (the top level is just one.. perhaps there are some communists at high levels of technolgy hear in the solar system, i dont know). This is because it is ensured.. for quite some time.. by the architecture that the secret agents, and the top levels wont get overthrown by revolution of lower level classes… now mostly even if there is scarcity they dont care much.. some levels spend some time to make business of scarsity, or just to help others who are in trouble, while the top levels only care about now that others dont acquire technology above their own (the militaries, dont have the top level technologies.. most visible militaries, have the top level secret leaders.. who on the other hand see the lower levels, and these have the highest technologies and best equipment.. of some sort i dont know about).
    most meaningfull work top levels care about is thus the scientifc work as mentioned and physical work is not much, because the bulk is being done by specifically educated and perhaps engineered individuals and automatics.

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  6. Avatar for KevinZoltanMate says

    November 26, 2013 at 9:38 am

    hartcreek i sink i screwed up my beutifull comment.

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  7. Avatar for KevinJim P. says

    November 26, 2013 at 10:37 am

    I’m going to unfollow this because of the spammer. Sorry.

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  8. Avatar for KevinHM1 (FMF) Ret. says

    December 11, 2013 at 4:12 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phhfku3_DxA 

    Justice…

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